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Poster: stratocaster Date: Apr 22, 2010 4:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: what if.....

Garcia played fast plenty...also, shredding wasn't really Garcia or Hendrix's style, they both "ripped"...hendrix was a blues rock (at the end some fusion) guitarist who played loud, distorted, killer tone and had the chops to play very fast, but it was tasteful and had composition...Hendrix played alot of lead rythym, particularly when he was breaking into the scene as an accompanying musician early on...

Now if you mean wildly , distorted playing in song breaks, that was not Garcia, per say...but you can check out versions of passenger 77'-79' as an example, where Garcia plays very fast runs with alot of drive...there are some crazy end solos during this period (Wharf Rat, Other One, etc.) and into the early 80s where Garcia would use more driven, distorted tones in tunes...go to 89 Deals to hear Garcia rip 07-19-1989 prime example...

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Apr 22, 2010 4:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: what if.....

hey Strat - I was poking fun at the Weir jab below. No Garcia - no Dead.

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Poster: groovernut Date: Apr 22, 2010 4:59pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: what if.....

FYI, It's not a jab, I have not interest in insulting Bob. I want to know just exactly what is it was that made it work with him... since on his own he is not the most stellar performer, just how it is bro.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Apr 22, 2010 7:09pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: what if.....

" since on his own he is not the most stellar performer,"

NONE of them were are are except Jerry. Phil had some pretty good lineups for sure but go check out the and Loose to Truck he chose to play with during the hiatus. Does that somehow diminish Phil's role?

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Apr 22, 2010 5:11pm
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ok, i get it now then. You're right on his own. But by you calling him mereley competant I took that as an insult to him.

fwiw I don't think Phil's band is all that on his own either( with some very notable exceptions of course )

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Poster: groovernut Date: Apr 22, 2010 6:21pm
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ditto on phils band there are not the end all for all.. but there are cool gigs and some good lineups.

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Poster: groovernut Date: Apr 22, 2010 5:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: what if.....

Yeah, technicality was not what made the dead special. There are plenty of more technically savvy bands that blow. The way he fit into the band was unique...

Obviously I have been listing to the GD for a while and like it, so a flat out insult would not only insult Bob but my taste...

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Poster: skuzzlebutt Date: Apr 22, 2010 7:20pm
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"Yeah, technicality was not what made the dead special."

No shit. Plenty of rock bands over the last 40 years could play circles around the Dead from technical perspective, but being proficient and having that certain "IT" are two different things...

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Apr 23, 2010 7:55am
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Here, here, hear, hear.......

A great example? Go to You Tube and search for Guthrie Govan. Speed freak and he's not even the fastest out there. I saw a clip of some metal head doing some kind of 4 string sweep seizure thingie at over 360 bpm (advertised - I didn't count)

It boils down to this for me - do I like what I hear and am enjoying the supporting experience while hearing it?

I think the whole of the Grateful Dead experience was that it was its own self enabling petri dish for cool shit to grow in.

Hell, even the occasional troll is fun to kick around.......

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Poster: DeadRed1971 Date: Apr 23, 2010 2:51pm
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I heard a recent radio interview where Gary Hoey said Jeff Beck was his favorite, because where others try to play fast, Beck can kill you with one note.

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: Apr 22, 2010 9:48pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: what if.....

Even with all their periodic sloppiness, there was no one like them. I've subjecting my ears to major live abuse since 1968 and I can say, unequivocally, that no one could beat them when they were in the game. Listen to concerts from 1969 to 1974. Drop yourself into the middle of a fast and insane PIB or WR Suite. Remember all the gorgeous, spontaneous moments that we were privleged to witness. Think of all the styles of music that they were jammingly fluent in. Could any other band even remotely touch them? I think not. And that's all I have to say about that.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Apr 23, 2010 7:21am
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We, of course, agree, DH; and I've said it enough times here that it's as boriing as all the rest of my posts, but having spent a month with them now, in earnest, the only one for me (duh): CREAM (ie, "touch them").

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: Apr 23, 2010 12:50pm
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Did you follow Clapton into Derek?

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Poster: William Tell Date: Apr 23, 2010 8:57pm
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Just a bit...earliest stuff; somehow, after BlFaith, and really after about 71, he just never did anything for me again...I can appreciate the techno aspects, and so on (ie, that he may have gotten better in some respects, and wanted to change up styles, explore, etc., but never cared for any of it--or at least it never "grabbed" me the way his early playing did).

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: Apr 24, 2010 10:10am
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So, he peaked early in his career, did he? :)